2005 Minutes
January 3, 2005
Estancia Upper Elementary School Library
The meeting was called to order by Bill Simms, President.
The minutes from November were read, and approved. There were no minutes for December, 2004
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following report:
Beginning Balance October 4, 2004 $1335.86
Ending Balance November1, 2004 $1215.86
Beginning Balance November 1, 2004 $1215.86
Ending Balance December 6, 2004 $1225.86
Library Report: Marion stated that she had a couple more books to add to our library. They are "Those Who Came Before" and "Shamanism-Remote Beyond Compare". They have been catalogued but not labeled. She encourages members to please use their library. We have an excellent selection of books.
Old Business: None
New Business:
John Hayden talked about a possible overnight trip to Pecos, TX in April, possibly April 9, 10, & 11. This is where the Pecos River joins the Rio Grande River and there are fascinating petroglyphs there.
Bill stated that we have speakers for Feb, March, and April. He asked for ideas about field trips for the next couple of months.
Gloria stated that she will set up something at the Hispanic Cultural Center the end of this month on a Saturday. Bill will let everyone else know by e-mail the date and time.
Morrow suggested a visit to the Scottish Right Museum in Santa Fe for February. He will follow up on this.
Bill stated that the speaker for February is Charlie Hacker, NPS Archeologist.
Speaker for the evening
Morrow Hall gave a fascinating talk on the historical maps of NM from 1846 to the present.
Attendance
Bonnie Long, Don Fitzner, John Hayden, Morrow Hall, Judith Tamm, Roy & Linda McConkey, Francis & Jan Winn, Linda Powell, Sharon Hanna, Sue Harvey, Gloria Pohl, Idell Conaway, John Jeheber, Bill 7 Barbara Simms, Waynette & Larry Burnett, Jerry & Marion Shaw, Bob & Lucy Bergland, Pete Golden, the Baker family.
February 7, 2005
Estancia Upper Elementary School Library
The meeting was called to order by Bill Simms, President.
The minutes from January were read and approved.
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following 3 reports:
Beginning Balance Dec 6, 2004 $1225.86
Ending Balance January 1, 2005 $1410.86
Beginning Balance January 1, 2005 $1410.86
Ending Balance February 7, 2005 $1402.86
Annual Report:
Beginning Balance Jan 1, 2004 $1348.11
Ending Balance January 1, 2005 $1410.86
Library Report: Barbara Simms donated the book "La Gran Quivera" written by Clara Corbin who lived there at the beginning of the 20th Century. Marion would like to purchase the book titled "In Search of Chaco". A motion was made and seconded for her to purchase the book which will cost about $20.00. Bill stated that Idell and John will revive the newsletter and will list all the books in our library for everyone’s benefit. He also mentioned that the website needs to be updated. Don Giles has had difficulty accessing the web site. He is currently out of town. Bonnie will ask him to research the problem when he gets home.
Old Business: Judith gave an overview of the trip to the Hispanic Cultural Center last week-end. About 12 individuals went. It was very interesting. They had a tour of the facility including the art museum which highlighted 3 artists with different styles.
New Business:
Rebecca Stoneman is not here. Once Bill hears from her, he will e-mail information regarding the site stewardship program at Pueblo Blanco Rebecca is hoping some TCAS members will be interested in getting involved with.
Scottish Rite Temple Tour in Santa Fe: This is set up for Sat, Feb 26 and Morrow will coordinate. We will visit the Scottish Rite in the morning at 10 AM, have lunch at The Shedd, and visit the Palace of the Governor’s museum in the afternoon.
Museum tour in Tucumcari: This is scheduled for Sat March 12. Don Fitzer will coordinate. This is a 21/2 hour drive from here. A sign up sheet was sent around. We will have a private tour of the Territorial Museum at 10 AM, followed by lunch at Dale’s, and a private tour of the Dinosaur Museum in the afternoon.
Mill’s Canyon on the Canadian River: A tentative date was set for Sat, April 23. Bill stated this is a very interesting area historically and was recently written up in the NM Magazine. He will get more details later.
Rock Art on the Pecos River: John Hayden is still working on the details. This will be a 3-4 day trip from April 8 through the 11. Further information will be shared at the March meeting.
Other Information: John stated the State Archaeological meeting is scheduled for April 29, 30 and May 1st in Las Cruces. The deadline for submitting papers is March 15th.
The Albuquerque Archaeological Society is offering training in working with rock art on Sat Feb 26 in Santa Fe.
Linda Benz stated there is a good historical museum at Traditions and there is also a restaurant there. This might be a good day trip in March. This will be discussed at the March meeting.
Nancy stated she has speakers lined up for the rest of the year except for May. March, Chris Turnbow will talk on Mimbres pottery; April, Steve Post will give an update on the excavation at the Palace of the Governor’s. Regge will talk to Glenna Dean regarding giving us a talk at the May dinner meeting.
Speaker for the evening: Charles Haecker gave a fascinating talk on a couple Apache/US soldier battle sites that he has been involved with. He brought several metal artifacts found at the sites for our perusal.
Attendance: Nancy Woodworth, Bonnie Long, Linda Benz, Judith Tamm, Morrow Hall, Gloria Pohl, Sue Harvey, John Hayden, Leslie Chavez, Roy and Linda McConkey, Sharon Hanna, Dean Brinkman, Linda Powell, Earl and Billye Head, Bob Beryl, Bill and Barb Simms, Don Fitzner, Jerry and Marion Shaw, Regge Wiseman, Kory Baker family, Pete Golden.
March 7, 2005
Estancia Upper Elementary School Library
The meeting was called to order by Bill Simms, President.
The minutes from February were read, corrected and approved.
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following report:
Beginning Balance February 7, 2005 $1402.86
Ending Balance March 7, 2005 $1427.86
Library Report: Marion had nothing to report.
Old Business:
Scottish Rite Temple: Morrow gave a brief summary of the field trip to the Scottish Rite Temple in Santa Fe on Feb 26. About 16 members participated. It included a look at Kit Carson’s rifle, an explanation of the 4-32 degrees that are put on as plays, a look at some of the costumes and Morrow playing a tune on the pipe organ that is dated to 1912 when the building was built. He stated the building is open to the public most days of the week at no charge. It was a great and informative trip followed by lunch at The Shedd and a visit to the Palace of theGovernors.
Site Stewardship: Rebecca Stoneman explained what is involved with the state run stewardship program. Volunteers are needed to monitor 3 sites in the Gallinas Mountains. There has been some looting of artifacts at these sites and the USFS does not have enough staff to check on these sites on a regular basis. Two sites have fences around them and the other does not. What is needed is someone to volunteer 1-2 hours/month to check on these sites and report back to the USFS. Rebecca will meet with anyone who is interested in this program. A sign up sheet was sent around for Rebecca.
New Business:
Tumcumcari Museums: Don Fitzner stated this trip is set up for Sat March 12. The Territorial Museum tour begins at 10:00AM. Lunch will be at Dean’s Restaurant. The Dinosaur Museum tour starts at 1:30 PM. It is a 21/2 hour drive to Tumcumcari from here so people should plan to leave here by 7:00 AM.
Pecos, TX Rock Art Trip: John Hayden stated the dates for the trip are Sat April 9-Tues April 12 to accommodate those who can’t leave until Saturday. It is a 600 mile trip one way and there is camping at the Seminole Canyon State Park. He has arranged for us to have a guide for Sun. April 10 and Mon April 11. A high clearance vehicle will be necessary as our guide will take us to some outlying sites on those days. A sign up sheet was sent around.
Mills Canyon Day Trip: Bill Simms stated this is set for Sat April 23rd. He will give more information regarding this trip at the April meeting.
Web Site: Don Giles stated that he has been unable to access the server for the TCAS web site for some time now. He recommended TCAS move to a commercial site. A new domain name will cost about $6.00, and use of the commercial site will cost about $5/month or $70/year. A motion was made, seconded and approved for TCAS to move to a commercial site using either TCASNM.org or NM TCAS.org as a domain name. Don will pursue.
Other Information: Nancy highly recommended we make a visit to the NM Arts and Cultural Museum in Santa Fe to see their Mimbres pottery collection. Possibly in May?
Speakers: Steve Post will be our speaker for the April meeting. Excavation at the Palace of the Governors has been completed. Glenna Dean will speak at our May dinner meeting. We may possibly do a June meeting with John Hayden giving a slide show on the Pecos, TX Rock Art trip.
Speaker for the evening: Chris Turnbow gave a fascinating talk and slide show on the Rise and Fall of the Mimbres Pottery tradition. He included the influences of other cultures on the different pottery styles that occurred over the years from AD 200 to AD 1140 when the collapse of the Mimbres culture occurred.
Attendance: Nancy Woodworth, Rebecca Stoneman, Bob & Lucy Berglund, Morrow Hall, Judith Tamm, Tom Fuchett, Roy & Linda McConkey, Linda Benz, E. DePriest, Don & Marcia Fitzner, Karen & Mike Argearas, Billye & Earl Head, Bill & Barbara Simms, John Jeheber and Idell Conaway, Don Giles & Bonnie Long, Gloria Pohl, Sue Harvey, Jan & Francis Winn, Mel & Della Stephenson, The Baker family, Leslie Chavez.
April 4, 2005
Estancia Upper Elementary School Library
The meeting was called to order by Gloria Pohl, Vice President.
The minutes for March were read and approved.
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following report:
Beginning Balance March 7, 2005 $1427.86
Ending Balance April 4, 2005 $1487.86
Library Report: Marion stated that John Hayden donated a "Field Guide to the Sandia Mountains" to the library.
Old Business: Linda and Curtis gave a summary of the trip to Tucumcari, lunch and the museums. Pictures were passed around from the trip.
New Business:
Mills Canyon Trip: This is scheduled for Saturday, April 23rd. We will leave Estancia at 7 AM, lunch in Mills Canyon and tour the Canyon Colorado Equid Sanctuary near Mills Canyon around 2 PM. A sign up sheet was sent around.
Pecos, TX Rock Art Trip: John Hayden has cancelled this trip for now due to personal reasons and low number of participants. He would like to reschedule, possibly next fall or winter. This will be discussed in the fall.
Site Stewardship Update: Rebecca Stoneman not here.
Suggestions for other outings: Three Rivers was suggested by Billye. Judith suggested a return to Ghost Ranch in the fall. Curtis suggested a trip to Socorro, to see the Flour Mills, San Lorenzo Canyon geological formations etc.
Albuquerque Tricentennial: Gloria mentioned the Tricentennial kick-off will be April 23rd. She suggested people contact the Albuquerque Chamber of Commerce for detailed information. The celebration will last for 18 months.
May Meeting: The last meeting of the year will be on May 2nd at the Short Stop Restaurant at 6:30 PM. Glenna Dean will give a talk.
Speaker for the evening: Steve Post gave a fascinating talk and slide show on the Palace of the Governors excavation site in Santa Fe. They have now completed the excavation and have found 800,000 artifacts of which 20% will be evaluated.
Attendance: Della & Mel Stephenson, Gloria Pohl, Billye Head, Pete Golden, John Hayden, Sharon Hanna, Linda Powell, Marion & Jerry Shaw, Nancy DePriest, Linda & Curtis Benz, Morrow Hall, Judith Tamm, Roy McConkey, Jan & Francis Winn.
May Minutes
May 2, 2005
May meeting consisted of our usual end-of-the-season dinner meeting at the Short Stop in Estancia. Glenna Dean spoke about how our society does not give the dead the respect they deserve. We move their grave sites to accommodate expansion, etc.
September 12, 2005
Estancia Upper Elementary School Library
The meeting was called to order by Bill Simms, President.
The minutes for April were read and approved.
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following report:
Beginning Balance April 4, 2005 $1487. 86
Ending Balance Sept 12, 2005 $1463.86
Library Report: Marion stated that everything has been catalogued. Linda Benz donated 2 books to the library. Billye gave 2 Archeology magazines and some state newsletters to the library as well.
Old Business:
Newsletter: Idell and John have agreed to do the newsletter. They need input and articles.
Website: Some people stated they had trouble accessing our website. It is www.tcasnm.org. Bill will send this out again via e-mail for those who are not here.
New Business:
TCAS Museum Proposal: Marty Hibbs, Mayor of Estancia stated there is a state program called "Main Street" which provides some funding to towns to revitalize their downtown area and encourage new businesses. He’s not sure Estancia is big enough to qualify for the main funding, but he thinks there is a possibility of getting funding from separate programs. He would like the town of Estancia to buy 4-5 vacant buildings along Main Street in Estancia, renovate them and encourage new businesses. He thinks the Citizen’s Newspaper building would be a wonderful site for a museum. It will probably need about $250,000 to fix it up. He stated it needs a non-profit group to spearhead the project and go for grants etc, such as our group. Judith Tamm stated TCAS is a non-profit 501c3 organization so we would qualify for this if that is what TCAS would want. Bill stated that Tucumcari did a similar thing for their museum.
Mayor Hibbs stated the first step is for Estancia to purchase the building (which he thinks can be accomplished in the near future). The next step would be to find a group to pursue funding and perhaps began reconstruction next spring. A vote was taken and the majority present was in favor of being the group spearheading this project. Mayor Hibbs will keep us posted.
Site Stewardship: Rebecca Stoneman stated there are several sites at risk and some vandalism has occurred. She has received several applications from TCAS members who want to participate in this program. Unfortunately, she is moving to Utah in October and needs to set up the training soon as she doesn’t know who the new director will be. To accommodate our schedules and hers, the first part of the training (paperwork involved) will occur next Monday evening, Sept 19 at the Mountainair Ranger Station in Mountainair from 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM. The field trip to the different sites will be the following Sunday, Sept 25th. We will meet in Willard at the cantina at 12 noon for lunch and start out at 1 PM. Bill will send out an e-mail to everyone with this information.
Field Trips: John Hayden has reserved a block of rooms at Ghost Ranch for the week-end of Nov 4, 5,6th. We will discuss this in more detail at the October meeting. He will work on a trip to the Pecos area in the spring. Glenna Dean has expressed an interest to participate as this is the area where she did much of her work.
Curtis suggests we do a field trip to Claunch near Gran Quivera, possibly the end of October and visit their museum. We will discuss this further at the Oct meeting.
Other: Bill stated that Nancy Woodworth is stepping down as Program Chair. She is too overwhelmed with other projects. Linda McConkey will cover this role until end of year. Bill stated we need speakers for October and November.
Meeting Adjourned.
Speaker for the evening: Dr. Oswald Werner, Professor Emeritus from Northwestern University gave a fascinating presentation on "The Linguistic Situation in the Aboriginal Southwest". He discussed the evolution of languages among the many southwestern tribes many that were derived from a common mother language.
Attendance: Billye Head, Bob & Lucy Berglund, Karen Argeanas, Roy & Linda McConkey, Leslie Chavez, Waynette Burnett, Gloria Pohl, Sue Harvey, Bonnie Long, Nancy Woodworth, Jan & Francis Winn, Charlotte Baca, Morrow Hall, Judith Tamm, Barbara & Bill Simms, Jan & Ladd Hagmier, Idell Conaway, John Jeheber, Linda Benz, Linda Powell, Rebecca Stoneman, Marty & Margarita Hibbs, John Hayden, Jerry & Marion Shaw, Nancy DePriest, Alexandra Kasuba.
October 10, 2005
Estancia Upper elementary School Library
The Meeting was called to order by Bill Simms, President.
The minutes of September were read and approved after a couple minor corrections.
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following report:
Beginning Balance Sept 12, 2005 $1463.42
Ending Balance Oct 10, 2005 $1433.42
Library Report:
Marion left. Waynette donated 4 books to the library: one on Chaco Canyon and another on Bryce Canyon, and the other two on Bandelier National Monument.
Old Business:
TCAS Museum Proposal: Mayor Hibbs stated that they are beginning negotiations regarding purchasing the Citizen’s Newspaper building. The offer is contingent on the following: there needs to be an architect, and engineer to look at the building first to make sure the building can be renovated. The Board of Trustees felt a museum would be the best use of this building. He will keep us posted.
Curtis asked what we want in the museum. Morrow stated we would need a core of artifacts first to get started and that we would need to be selective on what we accepted. Bill stated there are several old families in the Estancia Valley who are interested in donating items for a museum. When a museum becomes feasible, he stated we will develop committees to look at what goes in the museum and how we will operate it.
Site Stewardship Program: Judith gave an overview of the training that took place for this program this past month. She stated there were about 12 people who took part in the training. The first part involved the paperwork involved with the program and what to do if find someone who is vandalizing the property. The second part involved visiting the 3 sites, Pueblos Blanco, Colorado, and Del Mesa. A schedule for visitation now needs to be established.
Newsletter: Do we want one, in addition to the web site? Everyone present was in favor of having both a newsletter as well as the web site. John Jeheber stated he and Idell will have a newsletter out by the end of the year. Don is keeping the web site current.
New Business:
Field trip on October 22nd. Curtis stated that the Claunch Museum is currently closed so we will put this trip off until the spring sometime. He had an alternate suggestion of visiting San Lorenzo Canyon NW of Socorro and will send out an e-mail for another place to visit near there for the second part of the day. A sign up sheet was sent around.
Ghost Ranch Field Trip on Nov 4,5,6: John Hayden not here. Bill stated that John said to arrive before 6 PM on Friday if want dinner. If arrive late, you can pick up your room assignments in a holder near the main office door. A block of rooms in the Corral section have been reserved for us. A sign up sheet was sent around.
Pecos Field Trip: This is scheduled for the end of March.
Election of Officers: A nominating committee was set up to come up with a slate of officers for 2006 at the November meeting. The committee will consist of Linda McConkey, Waynette Burnett and Gloria Pohl. Billye has a current membership list which she will make available for the committee members.
Meeting adjourned.
Speaker for the Evening: Duane Moore from the Tucumcari Museum gave an interesting talk on how the Tucumcari Museum came about and how well it has continued to function. Many questions were asked. He also thought Estancia was in a good location for a museum being close to Albuquerque, I-40 and Mountainair.
Attendance: Leslie Chavez, Linda & Roy McConkey, John Jeheber, Gloria Pohl, Gloria Jones, Don Giles, Bonnie Long, Margarita & Marty Hibbs, Don Fitzner, Waynette Burnett, Duane Moore, Sue Harvey, Nancy DePriest, Judith Tamm, Morrow Hall, Mel Stephenson, Billye & Earl Head, Linda & Curtis Benz, Marion Shaw.
November 7, 2005
Estancia upper Elementary School Library
The meeting was called to order by Bill Simms, President.
The minutes of October were read and approved.
Treasurer’s Report: Billye gave the following report:
Beginning Balance Oct 10, 2005 $1433.42
Ending Balance Nov 7, 2005 $1378.47
Billye stated that John Hayden recommended we make a donation to Ghost Ranch as our group has used their facilities several times and their paleontologist has given us special sessions in the museum. A motion was made, seconded and approved to donate $50.00 to Ghost Ranch.
Library Report: Marion stated she has yet to catalogue the books Waynette donated last month.
Old Business:
Site Stewardship Program: Judith reported on a meeting she and Waynette attended on Oct 26th at the BLM office in Albuquerque regarding the program. They met Phillip Young who is temporarily in charge of the program. There was several other site watch groups present from around the state. Some had completed the training while others had not. The best organized group was the Santa Fe Forest group. Everyone involved with the site stewardship program was given an ID and a packet of information. Bill stated our group still needs to set up a schedule of visitation.
Newsletter: Idell and John not here. Bill stated that due to other commitments, they will not get the newsletter out until after the first of the year.
TCAS/Estancia Museum: Mayor Hibbs not present so any news on progress will have to wait..
Trip to San LorenzoCanyon/Quebradas Scenic Byway: Don Fitzner stated it was a fantastic trip with many interesting land forms.
Ghost Ranch: John Hayden will share pictures of this past week-end at the end of the meeting. All present felt this was one of the best trips ever to Ghost Ranch.
New Business:
Refrigerator Magnets: Don Giles showed some refrigerator magnets he made for members with the TCAS name and web site address. He would like to sell them to members in order to pay for the web site. He is selling the ones with a slight missname for $.75 each and the correctly named ones for $1.00.
Slate of Officers: Gloria stated that the same officers for last year have agreed to continue for another year. If anyone else is interested in running, please let the committee know. The election of officers will be held at the December meeting. She stated the committee still does not have a name for the Program Chair position. Bill suggested this position be appointed rather than elected. He also stated that Nancy has a list of names for speakers that he will get from her. This will help whoever takes this position.
November trip: Linda Benz suggested we attend the grand opening of the El Camino Real Center south of Socorro on Nov 19th. Bonnie stated that the opening coincides with the Festival of the Cranes at Bosque del Apache. She has information regarding the event and a map to the place. She will e-mail this to Bill.
Speakers for January and February: Jerry Brodie will be our guest speaker in January. We still need a speaker for February and for the rest of the year.
Other: Linda Benz stated that the Independent, Telegraph and Community Board have the wrong web site address and meeting place. She will contact them and correct the information.
December will be our Christmas pot-luck and slide show of trips taken this past year. There will be no speaker. Billye also stated that membership dues will be due then.
Meeting Adjourned.
Speaker for the Evening: Noel and Sammie Pachta gave an overview of the museum in Moriarty and how it functions. Noel explained the importance of setting up the Articles of Incorporation and By-Laws, and some of the pitfalls to avoid.
Attendance: Leslie Chavez, Billye Head, Don Fitzner, Don Giles, Bonnie Long, Bill & Barbara Simms, Linda Benz, John Hayden, Gloria Pohl, Sue Harvey, Della & Mel Stephenson, Francis & Jan Winn, Judith Tamm, Morrow Hall, Babbi Baker, Bay Baker, Roy McConkey, Pete Golden, Waynette Burnett.
